I watched a Ray McGovern interview yesterday. Ray is a retired CIA analyst and Pro-Palestine commentator. For days now, I have been questioning many how the Freedom Flotilla plans to arrive safely at the Strip. Previous Flotilla’s have been attacked by Israeli forces. Some have died in their efforts. Ray provided a solid answer to this question. He was on board the 2011 Freedom Flotilla during the Obama administration.
Ray still had contacts in the state department in 2011 and enquired as to how the administration would respond to the Flotilla? They informed him that the best case scenario for the administration would be for everyone on the Flotilla to come back in body bags. They indicated that this would help Obama’s election campaign.
As it turned out, when the Flotilla docked at Cyprus on the last leg of the journey, the Obama administration threatened the leaders in Cyprus to not allow the Flotilla to continue. When they tried to embark toward Gaza, the Captain of the ship was threatened by Cyprus Port Authorities that they were going to board the ship by force and take command of the vessel. He decided at this point to turn back for the safety of his crew and passengers.
Ray explained that the yearly Flotilla trip is a token effort that showers the current US/EU leaders with absolute embarrassment and highlights their extreme cowardice in not forcing Israel to stop the genocide in Gaza. In this context, all of the flotilla’s have been a overwhelming success. To my understanding, if this Flotilla arrives near Gaza on June 8th, this would the anniversary the attack on the USS Liberty which took place on 06.08.67, killing 37, and wounding 171 crew members. Israel has yet to be held accountable for this murderous rampage. Link to interview below:
Wow. thank you so much for this Guy. It really explains a lot of things, and questions in my mind. Also, the coincidence of the date of the USS Liberty attack. I am yet again dismayed by how the world powers all align to protect "Israel" which is always under the umbrella of the US protection. And how humanity is just tossed aside in order to protect the cruellest psychopathic instincts. I despair with each passing day. Truly despair.
People are awful. They don't know about the world and don't want to know. It's awful. Humans will support a genocide rather than feel uncomfortable or challenge their relationships with other people although those people support genocide.
Our society seems to be designed to make most people stupid enough to support a genocide if they aren't evil.
Yes you're right. And it's that kind of brainlessness that I despise. Most people are sheep, and are brainwashed quite easily. When you socialise mainly with pro-humanity people its easy to forget how dreadful most people actually are.
I am judicious in that I prefer to keep mainly my own company 😂 But yes, interacting within intelligent and pro-Palestinian/humanitarian circles, when I encounter braindead sheep and facile idiots who watch dancing on ice and other such stuff compulsively, and are just dead inside by my standards, it does make me puke a bit.
Wow! Sobia has laid down the law here. ““If you believe “Israel’s lies, you are either a moron, or you are lying to cover up your own racism and your conviction that “Israeli” and white lives are more valuable than Palestinian and Arab ones.” The things she expresses are obvious to any eighth grader who has not already been indoctrinated beyond hope. Listen to some of the testimonies of Gaza’s children. They seem to be the current “adults” in the room. You are either a Zionist or a genuine Jew. You can’t be both. Excellent work! Just excellent!
These are more than death threats. The Flotilla is a peaceful aid venture seeking to ease suffering among starving people. Those who want them to starve are threatening deadly force against unarmed civilians. They are clearly provoking terrorist acts. Similar acts have occurred many times in similar circumstances. An aid flotilla in 2010 was attacked by the IDF killing 10. The USS Liberty was attacked in 1967 resulting in the deaths of 34 American sailors. These are credible threats of terrorism.
The world is ready for Nuremberg 2.0. What is it waiting for?
I’m coming to the conclusion that some of the support for Genocide is comes from capitalists. Whether they realize it or not, capitalism values money over human life. So capitalists get excited by money winning over all. It is a grim pleasure. It’s one of the reasons capitalism is a sick and twisted ideology.
Absolutely without a doubt. Any "ideology" that promotes the pursuit of capital and money at all costs (excuse the pun) is in danger of robbing us of our humanity and corrupting our souls. for sure. But also any ideology that promotes superiority, status and power will be tied up with the ruthless and greedy pursuit of money - power and money go together. And when they are at the fore, any humanity is left far behind. Sick and twisted indeed.
This last has no idea about what is really going on. But perhaps she could ask for the hostages all be returned? Oh sorry she only says what she is told to say. Even perhaps she could be shown the after math of the festival attack. Has she any relevance anymore no.
A Freedom Flotilla side note:
I watched a Ray McGovern interview yesterday. Ray is a retired CIA analyst and Pro-Palestine commentator. For days now, I have been questioning many how the Freedom Flotilla plans to arrive safely at the Strip. Previous Flotilla’s have been attacked by Israeli forces. Some have died in their efforts. Ray provided a solid answer to this question. He was on board the 2011 Freedom Flotilla during the Obama administration.
Ray still had contacts in the state department in 2011 and enquired as to how the administration would respond to the Flotilla? They informed him that the best case scenario for the administration would be for everyone on the Flotilla to come back in body bags. They indicated that this would help Obama’s election campaign.
As it turned out, when the Flotilla docked at Cyprus on the last leg of the journey, the Obama administration threatened the leaders in Cyprus to not allow the Flotilla to continue. When they tried to embark toward Gaza, the Captain of the ship was threatened by Cyprus Port Authorities that they were going to board the ship by force and take command of the vessel. He decided at this point to turn back for the safety of his crew and passengers.
Ray explained that the yearly Flotilla trip is a token effort that showers the current US/EU leaders with absolute embarrassment and highlights their extreme cowardice in not forcing Israel to stop the genocide in Gaza. In this context, all of the flotilla’s have been a overwhelming success. To my understanding, if this Flotilla arrives near Gaza on June 8th, this would the anniversary the attack on the USS Liberty which took place on 06.08.67, killing 37, and wounding 171 crew members. Israel has yet to be held accountable for this murderous rampage. Link to interview below:
https://youtu.be/O1_F9etOeN8?t=910
Wow. thank you so much for this Guy. It really explains a lot of things, and questions in my mind. Also, the coincidence of the date of the USS Liberty attack. I am yet again dismayed by how the world powers all align to protect "Israel" which is always under the umbrella of the US protection. And how humanity is just tossed aside in order to protect the cruellest psychopathic instincts. I despair with each passing day. Truly despair.
I know... I cry too... those poor children.
People are awful. They don't know about the world and don't want to know. It's awful. Humans will support a genocide rather than feel uncomfortable or challenge their relationships with other people although those people support genocide.
Our society seems to be designed to make most people stupid enough to support a genocide if they aren't evil.
Yes you're right. And it's that kind of brainlessness that I despise. Most people are sheep, and are brainwashed quite easily. When you socialise mainly with pro-humanity people its easy to forget how dreadful most people actually are.
Yes, if you are judicious about the company you keep, going outside of your circle can be rather unsettling 😂
I am judicious in that I prefer to keep mainly my own company 😂 But yes, interacting within intelligent and pro-Palestinian/humanitarian circles, when I encounter braindead sheep and facile idiots who watch dancing on ice and other such stuff compulsively, and are just dead inside by my standards, it does make me puke a bit.
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Wow! Sobia has laid down the law here. ““If you believe “Israel’s lies, you are either a moron, or you are lying to cover up your own racism and your conviction that “Israeli” and white lives are more valuable than Palestinian and Arab ones.” The things she expresses are obvious to any eighth grader who has not already been indoctrinated beyond hope. Listen to some of the testimonies of Gaza’s children. They seem to be the current “adults” in the room. You are either a Zionist or a genuine Jew. You can’t be both. Excellent work! Just excellent!
These are more than death threats. The Flotilla is a peaceful aid venture seeking to ease suffering among starving people. Those who want them to starve are threatening deadly force against unarmed civilians. They are clearly provoking terrorist acts. Similar acts have occurred many times in similar circumstances. An aid flotilla in 2010 was attacked by the IDF killing 10. The USS Liberty was attacked in 1967 resulting in the deaths of 34 American sailors. These are credible threats of terrorism.
The world is ready for Nuremberg 2.0. What is it waiting for?
Yes you are absolutely right, it is actually terrorism in action.
I’m coming to the conclusion that some of the support for Genocide is comes from capitalists. Whether they realize it or not, capitalism values money over human life. So capitalists get excited by money winning over all. It is a grim pleasure. It’s one of the reasons capitalism is a sick and twisted ideology.
Absolutely without a doubt. Any "ideology" that promotes the pursuit of capital and money at all costs (excuse the pun) is in danger of robbing us of our humanity and corrupting our souls. for sure. But also any ideology that promotes superiority, status and power will be tied up with the ruthless and greedy pursuit of money - power and money go together. And when they are at the fore, any humanity is left far behind. Sick and twisted indeed.
{...attempt to convince themselves that they are the bearers of enlightened Western values...}
Western values show on bank-statements only ... 🤮🤮🤮 and are entirely coralled-in by pornographic compromat in the hands of The Chosen Ones ...
Other topic which makes clear why the Western oligarchs fight Russia: about 20 min.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWuDdsmZmv8
Enjoy
Well said on Western "values"! And great clip, makes sense!
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This last has no idea about what is really going on. But perhaps she could ask for the hostages all be returned? Oh sorry she only says what she is told to say. Even perhaps she could be shown the after math of the festival attack. Has she any relevance anymore no.
The aftermath as in the carnage caused by "Israel"?